Download signal iphone app without google play






















All you need is to download the App Store and browse for your favorite App. The Yalp Store will download the App from Google Server and also lets you download any updates if available. Go to Download Page. You can either download the Yalp from Link above or else go for a manual download for the latest version. Read steps. Step 1. Download and install the F-Droid Apk from the official page. Step 2. Open the F-Droid App and let the App update the repository.

Step 3. Once the updates are complete, search for Yalp Store in the F-Droid. In this tutorial we discuss how to install and use it without a smartphone. Signal-cli is a command line interface for Signal. If you really use Signal without a smartphone, signal-cli functions as the single-point-of-truth. What do we expect for Free anyway?

Third party advertising has now become a security concern. Though no communication service is bullet proof, adding an additional layer of script to monetize Signal, in my opinion opens up a serious security breach that will eventually be exploited by hackers. Signal is not the only game in town. It is a nightmare trying to move the cursor to where you want it, or to highlight a specific section of your message.

If i try to move it further than that, the window just jumps back to the area where it is currently located and moves it to some random location nearby. Highlighting a portion of your message is impossible; it jumps from one end of the message to the other and will not allow you to scroll slowly to where you want to stop highlighting. Lots of features Gify, stickers, reacts, self destructing messages , but it requires you to give out your phone number to everyone you talk to, does not allow specifying a different server, and beyond those privacy concerns, it has gone downhill lately in terms of usability and security as well.

Private keys are sent through the server to enable moving from one device to another. Signal used to store private keys in hardware and it was impossible to export them. Yea, I didn't mention it, but I checked when it had been added; it was That is the reason I do my due diligence regarding the personal requirements quirks that I have. Have you had any experience setting up an Android device to use microG?

Their installation instructions on Github make it seem like a huge hassle. I still like Matrix' federated first approach to the server over Signal's, but this is a welcome change. Now we just need an F-droid build official repo or built by the F-droid team. Conversations is the only counter example and only came into the scene fairly recently.

Fortunately, as the code is under a free license, F-Droid or anyone else can ship their own builds no matter what Open Whisper Systems prefer. But their users won't be able to talk to signal users.

It is hard enough trying to persuade people to use signal. Getting critical mass for a fork would be even more difficult. But there's a catch: They may not name it "Signal", probably.

Firefox does the same thing, and I can see the reasoning behind it. I honestly don't see Signal and Matrix as competitors. I guess Signal is trying to position themselves as a chat service, but I see it more as a replacement for SMS, whereas Matrix I see as more replacing IRC and instant messenger products.

If we had to choose between them, I'd take Matrix in a heartbeat, but I just let them co-exist. Now it's just another instant messenger. I use SilenceIM. I only use it as an SMS replacement. Really, as long as you have mobile data, there's no difference between supporting SMS encryption and not - you can only talk encrypted to other Signal users anyway, and other Signal users will get your non-SMS-routed encrypted message just fine.

The use case for Signal-encrypted-SMS is continuing to send encrypted while you have no IP connectivity, but thankfully that is becoming a rarer corner-case.

Happens all the time for me. Pretty much anywhere in the US, I'd bet there's a spot within 50 miles where all you have is cell coverage. Ahh, I was not aware of that, in light of that it seems like dropping encrypted SMS support was premature. Here I don't think there's any places with non-data coverage, though there is now some of the opposite - places with no circuit-switched voice coverage, voice there is only through VoLTE.

Also note that as it stands encrypted SMS is technically superior. SMS encryption is actually quite a tricksy problem. TextSecure's entire purpose over bog standard IM OTR was to solve it, providing individual message-level forward secrecy.

The problem with federated approach is that it leaks metadata. When you take centralized system apart and expose internal communications to the Internet, you reduce anonymity. Extreme case is when everyone uses his own homeserver and information on who calls who and when is completely exposed.

It is not enough to make the system distributed, you need to exploit the fact that different parts of the network are controlled by different parties to build self-enforcing protocols that ensure anonymity.

For comparison, see how bitcoin is just distributed and zerocoin is anonymous. Gnutella is just distributed and FreeNet is anonymous. That's not the only problem, or the most important problem. The most important problem of federation is that it generates lowest-common-denominator security.

It's not an unknowable question. All you have to do is look and see how Signal's competitors, like Wire, tackle this problem. It's true that in a federated Signal-network, you might get clients that have security features Signal itself lacks. But because it's far easier to produce an insecure client than a secure one, insecurity will dominate, and be a boat anchor around any efforts to improve security down the road. Call it "the libpurple problem". All true, but I think the situation looks a little worse for centralization if instead of 'security features', you think in terms of 'vulnerabilities' almost but not quite an antonym.

Signal probably has a lower vulnerability rate than competing software, but if someone finds an implementation bug, it can be used against every user on the network.

Compare to, say, IRC, where there are a lot of really poorly written clients, but the sheer number of clients in use would limit the fallout of any one exploit. Likewise, Open Whisper Systems is pretty trustworthy, but if someone gets access to their servers, either by hacking or by coercion, and starts, say, logging metadata who's chatting with who , all Signal users are compromised.

This also applies to binary distribution. When software is compiled by N different distros or package managers or by users directly, that does make it hard to get security updates out in a timely manner. But with a centralized system like Signal's, if the binaries are compromised, everyone is pwned. Yes, measures like reproducible builds can reduce the risk, but they're far from perfect.

That's a dangerous meme to be spreading. FreeNet is not anonymous. Peers know your IP address. And malicious peers can learn what chunks your node is handling.

Sure, there's "plausible deniability". And common probabilistic attribution arguments are bogus. But that's cold comfort after the SWAT team has impounded all of your gear. They can't however tell if you are serving them or if you cached them due to their requests. That's true. But it's a long way from "anonymous". It seems like short messages are a perfect case for onion routing not The Onion Router, but the general idea of onion routing.

Signal leaks more metadata. All the metadata of Signal is available in one single system, transmitted across the globe into a foreign, and hostile country. In fact, we have to assume every bit that ever goes through the US is logged and stored by the NSA, and that makes Signal entirely untrustworthy. Certhas on Feb 20, root parent next [—]. The price of actually successfully bringing good encryption mainstream? Edit: The comment I replied to originally included a question on whether Signals server is even open source.

Signal is not mainstream. We are being asked to "just trust them". Certhas on Feb 22, root parent next [—]. I have had success with getting lots of people on it. And the key selling point that it is no more difficult than WhatsApp makes that possible. And that "no more" is really important. Especially not if it's "slightly more to someone who frequents HN". Because that's likely already prohibitive to most. Take a person that just barely knows how to operate the play store.

I can instruct that person over phone how to start chatting with me securely in a minute or two: Go to the play store, download signal, open signal, I'm already there in your contact list. Write me a message. That's an amazing achievement. The much maligned fact that phone numbers are used as identifiers is key to that experience, too, because my phone number already is on that persons phone. And yeah, I can't verify Whatsapp, but I still trust that Moxie et.

Still that's why I push people to switch to Signal rather than stay on WhatsApp. Doubly so as WhatsApp belongs to Facebook now I loved their original 1 Dollar a year business model, and if they still had that I would trust them a lot more.

Even with doubts about Facebook, it almost certainly is a massive win that WhatsApp implemented this. It makes WhatsApp immune to being subpoenaed for conversations, and thus they have a clear motive to implement it properly, too.

Signal is mainstream enough to have been used by the Clinton campaign in for internal communication. Removing Google Services through adb and pm like OP did makes Signal think they are still here, but being updated. There should be another step to remove Google Services because Signal can be installed on a phone that does not have them in the first place e. Lineage OS without gapps , but that step is unknown to me. It seems the pm uninstall --user 0 commands don't delete Google services' APKs, and that's what causing signal to think they're still installed.

Unfortunately, you need root privileges to delete the APKs because the filesystem is read-only. I suggest renaming this issue to "Add an option to install Signal without Google Play Services even when they're installed". I don't understand what you're asking here: "Is it possible to have the option not to use Google services during Signal installation".

Did you uninstall google services with pm only? The apk is still present on my phone, so I suspect Signal thinks google services are still installed. I'm on LineageOS



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